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Return to the world of the Liveship Traders and journey along the Rain Wild River in the second installment of high adventure from the author of the internationally acclaimed Farseer trilogy.
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Anonymous @ 4:52 pm
This one has some actual action happening in it! I can’t believe how much better this one was from the first, though perhaps I went into it with such low expectations they weren’t too difficult to surpass! I read this in just a couple of days, unable to put it down for too long because I started to care about what was going to happen to the characters, something that was severely lacking in the first book. That being said, I am starting to get tired of the main players in all of Hobbs’ novels having the same shortcoming, of being completely oblivious of other characters’ true natures and being blind to thinly-veiled deceptions that are going on all around them. Please, get creative, stop assigning everyone this painful naivete! There are some small insights given to the creation of Elderlings and that ‘world’, as well as much better development of the dragons as characters in the story. It is a shame that Hobbs left this as two-part story for once the story gets going in the second book you are ready for it to keep going! If you have read the first book and found it boring and tedious I say you should give this one a chance to let the series redeem it self. I almost would say just skip the first one but as there is so much character development that goes on you can’t; just know that there is light at the end of the tunnel leading to a very satisfying second book!
B. Capossere @ 6:41 pm
Dragon Haven is Robin Hobb’s conclusion to her Rain Wilds Chronicles, begun with Dragon Keeper. In reviewing the first book, I said it was a difficult task to judge Dragon Keeper as it was clearly mostly setup for what was to come (I believe it was originally supposed to be one novel but had to be split into two books for size). So now that it’s complete, how does the whole story hold up?
I’ve begun to wonder over the course of Hobb’s recent books if she is exploring just how much story she needs in her novels to actually have a “story.” There is a lot of action in her earlier books, such as the Farseer Trilogy (and subsequent Fool’s books) and her Liveship Traders group. Then, in Soldier Son Trilogy, there was almost none, with it mostly being a slow (too slow) study in character and culture (or culture clash). The Rain Wilds Chronicle seems to be a middle ground between the two. It’s almost as if she’s feeling her way to as quiet and minimalist a style (in terms of action, not language) as possible.
The reason, of course, that Hobb can get away with less plot than many authors is that she does character so damn well. While her earlier books, as mentioned, were full of action, their true draw lay in their characters (including characters made of wood–you think that’s an easy thing to pull off?). In Soldier Son, the main character was I’d argue was sharply drawn but too unlikable over too many pages while her secondary characters suffered from a lack of depth, unusual for Hobb. That, coupled with a slow plot, made that series a difficult read and one where it’s hard to say if its strengths outweigh its weaknesses.
Here, Hobb has once again given us multiple fully fleshed characters, some likable and some less so, but nearly all of them interesting and several quite compelling. Which is good, because not much actually happens action-wise. In Dragon Keeper, a group of deformed dragons and equally deformed (“marked”) Rain Wilders join with a Liveship crew to travel up the Rain Wild River toward a mythical city. In Dragon Haven, the journey continues and then ends (I won’t say where). That’s pretty much it. They don’t fight any pitched battles along the way, don’t come across ancient cities or tombs to explore deeply and accidentally uncover horrifying plot points, don’t save the world from some apocalyptic event or Dark Lord. They travel together and sometimes they fight among themselves and sometimes they come closer to one another. About the only major “action” is a short-lived flood wave that changes things around a bit. But even that is mostly a reason for further character development rather than a major plot event.
What keeps the reader going is the interpersonal action. Will the Rain Wild group, all of whom were supposed to be killed when born so marked, continue to accept their society’s old rules and its perception of themselves or will they modify them or create their own society? Will characters cling to their old selves or move into the new selves slowly being molded by this journey (in both a literal and metaphorical sense)? Will they cling to old relationships or find new ones? Old mores or new ones? Old biases or new tolerances?
Oh, there are plot questions that create suspense and tension throughout: who is the “mole” in the group spreading dissension, will anyone give into greed and carve out pieces of dragons to sell, will they ever find the mythical city, will the dragons every become true dragons, what are these odd physical changes in the dragon keepers, and so on. But in reality, they pale beside the character issues.
Beyond character, Hobb has her usual mastery of language here, whether it be dialogue or description. She offers up her usual themes: clash of culture, prejudice, the clash between change and tradition, the clash between the individual and the group and does so smoothly and subtly and thoughtfully.
So what the reading experience comes down to is whether you’re the reader who needs things “to happen” or if reading about people (even if the people are sometimes dragons or ships) is enough for you. To be honest, I did enjoy Hobb’s Farseer and Liveship books more with a more traditional blend of action and character. But while I found Soldiers Son overly slow and free of action, I was quite drawn into the character world of the Rain Wild Chronicles and didn’t feel the need for more things to happen, except at the very ending, which seemed a bit abrupt, a bit anti-climactic, with perhaps as well a bit of deus ex machina to it. But that was a minor complaint and in some ways, the ending, though disappointing, was quite appropriate to what had come before.
In the end, I was quite happy to drift down the river and spend some time with these characters and I suspect anyone who enjoys these sort of character-driven, “quiet” stories will as well. Happily recommended.
Esther Schindler @ 9:39 pm
I know that some people were a bit disappointed in the earlier book in this series, Dragon Keeper. I wasn’t among them. But even those who found Dragon Keeper a bit slow to get started should be happy to know that Hobb’s storytelling is at an A+ level in this second volume. Those who liked her Mad Ship trilogy can be confident that it’s time to place an Amazon order.
Even better: Although I had feared that this would be a “Trilogy in five parts” (because I couldn’t bear to thinking of waiting for yet ANOTHER book), Dragon Haven does have a real ending. There’s room for more, should Hobb’s characters have more adventures to chase… but this time you won’t be left at a cliffhanger at the end. (In reality, I suspect that Dragon Keeper and Dragon Haven were written with the intent of it being a single volume, but the manuscript got too big and unwieldy and had to be split into two. You certainly wouldn’t want to start with this book.)
Anyway: When Dragon Haven begins, the voyage to find the old Elderling city is underway. We have learned everybody’s secrets… and now it’s time for the characters to learn what their friends have been hiding. This is a love story, a Hero’s Journey, and a fun “exploration to find the source of the Nile.”
Oh dear. That sounds so much like a blurb. What I mean to say is this: I got the book from Amazon Vine on a Tuesday afternoon. I dropped the other books I was reading and immediately started to read this one. And I read at every opportunity (in doctor’s offices, late at night, during quiet stretches of a baseball game) until I had reached the end. I simply adore this novel. Hobb is among the best authors writing today because she is a master of worldbuilding and creates characters whom I really, really love. Dragon Haven is among her best work.
N. Brett @ 11:12 pm
Robin Hobb is renowned for her weighty trilogies, all except one set within the same world. Dragon Haven is the rare exception in that it is a pair of books, “The Rain Wild Chronicles” and is more linked to her “Liveship Traders” then her other books. Do not read this without having read the first book as they run straight into each-other.
Dragon Haven is a quest/journey book as the dragon keepers and their young dragons are supported by a group of hunters and a Liveship on a journey up the rather dangerous Rain Wild River in search of the mythical city of Kelsingra. So we have a disparate group who are at odds with each-other, the lethal river and forests and who also have a traitor in their midst who is helping the bad guys who are after the dragons for their blood…
It’s an odd book, I made the mistake of thinking it was about the ‘quest’ of Kelsingra but it is actually more about the relationships and the journey. And Hobb does tweak some of our assumptions from the first book and the characters do change and evolve as we read on. And, to be fair the author does tie up most of it at the end, although there are some characters that you will wish to know a little more about, and you may sense a little frustration at not knowing how they all ended up.
Robin Hobb does write very well and is a thoughtful and deep author, you do feel you have had a reading ‘experience’ rather then just ploughing through yet another fantasy. Having said that, it would be interesting to see a stand alone single novel set in a new world, I kind of want to see her talents on something fresh.
Patrick A. Kellner @ 12:34 am
“Dragon Haven”, by Robin Hobb
We pick up where we left off with Dragons and keepers alike traveling up the river towards what they all hope will eventually be Kelsingra. The live ship Tarman with Captain Leftrin at the helm follow suit. The dragons appear to be growing stronger by the day and hopes begin to rise that one day that may have all of their intended faculties if they can survive the trip and the difficulties the river presents…
“Dragon Haven” was a little slow even for a Robin Hobb Story. After completing it I felt like “Dragon Keeper” and “Dragon Haven” could have been combined into a single book. There just didn’t feel like there was enough additional character or plot development to justify 2 books.
The Good: As with all Robin Hobb stories we have great characters and a great and diverse world. Her prose manages to make even the most mundane scenes and situations somewhat entertaining.
The Bad: As stated one of Hobb’s strong points is her ability to draw strong characters and for the reader to watch them evolve however there just didn’t seem to be enough happening in “Dragon Haven” with regards to plot or character development / evolution and this left the book feeling a little slow and tedious at times.
Another problem for me was that a lot of character development was applied to the Sedric character which would have been fine however the story telling becomes a little too graphic for me regarding his taste in partners. I have no problem with characters that aren’t of the heterosexual persuasion being included within stories however I am not interested in their exploits being detailed within said story.
Overall: Dragon Haven was a bad read overall however was slightly slow even for Hobb. If you enjoyed the first in the series then you will likely enjoy this one as well. If you haven’t read Hobb before don’t start here. Pick up “Ship of Magic (The Liveship Traders, Book 1)” or “Assassin’s Apprentice (The Farseer Trilogy, Book 1)” first.